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Le Choixpeau magique

09/07/2009 à 00h02

http://www.hardware.fr/news/10320/google-annonce-son-os.html


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Le Choixpeau magique

09/07/2009 à 00h06

Mieux, l'annonce officielle:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html

A Redmond, certains vont avoir du mal à dormir cette nuit !


plouf

09/07/2009 à 00h12

Google OS et Mac OS X boxent-ils dans la même catégorie ?


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Le Choixpeau magique

09/07/2009 à 00h17

Sans doute pas dans un premier temps. Le but de google c'est le web, ils espèrent que les webapps vont remplacer totalement les applications traditionnelles. Ils ont commencé par les téléphones (Android, le concurrent de l'iphone), et se tournent maintenant vers les netbooks, petits ordis légers très tournés justement vers le online.
Pour mac os, dont les clients traditionnels sont les artistes (photoshop et toute sa clique), avec des applications gourmandes en ressources, Google OS ne constitue pas du tout une menace. Mais quand on voit qu'Adobe a sorti une application de démonstration de retouche en ligne, on peut se dire que même eux ne pensent pas l'idée totalement irréalisable...


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hallboy

09/07/2009 à 02h05

pour le moment c'est du vaporware. juste annoncé et rien d'autre.
Kernel + X + quoi?
ça fera surement bosser un peu plus Google sur le Kernel ( le boot encore plus ultra rapide? gestion de l'autonomie? ) IL l'annonce tot pour que tout mle monde se colle aux drivers?

Comme ils veulent du light ,c'est ni Gnome ni KDE comme interface.
Xfce?


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hallboy

09/07/2009 à 11h48

Bon: 2010 au mieux. et peut-etre un remplacement de X...

un google OS " à la Mac"? avec une couche proprietaire sur de l'unix freeware??


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hallboy

09/07/2009 à 11h54

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9135293/Opinion_Why_Google_Chrome_OS_matters_already_on_Day_1


c'est encore là qu'il y a le plus d'infos , et ça va pas loin...

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9135293/Opinion_Why_Google_Chrome_OS_matters_already_on_Day_1


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Le Choixpeau magique

10/07/2009 à 00h09

hallboy écrivait:
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> pour le moment c'est du vaporware. juste annoncé et rien d'autre.
> Kernel + X + quoi?


Sans doute la même chose qu'android, simplement adapté au matos différent.

> IL l'annonce tot pour que tout mle monde
> se colle aux drivers?

Oui, mais c'est destiné d'abord aux mini pc, et ce sera sans doute supporté sur un nombre d'appareils restreints au début.

Ca fait des années qu'il y a des rumeurs sur un tel truc, nul doute que si ils en parlent maintenant, c'est que le truc est quasiment prêt.


plouf

10/07/2009 à 00h16

Le Choixpeau magique écrivait:
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> Ca fait des années qu'il y a des rumeurs sur un tel truc, nul doute que si ils
> en parlent maintenant, c'est que le truc est quasiment prêt.

Ce peut-être simplement un buzz concomitant à l'annonce de Seven, histoire de positionner Google comme challenger de Microsoft. Que le produit sorte ou non, n'a pas beaucoup d'importance pour Google du moment qu'il reste le moteur de recherche numéro 1.


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hallboy

10/07/2009 à 00h20

Le Choixpeau magique écrivait:
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> hallboy écrivait:
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> > pour le moment c'est du vaporware. juste annoncé et rien d'autre.
> > Kernel + X + quoi?
>
>
> Sans doute la même chose qu'android, simplement adapté au matos différent.

Apparement pas
>
> > IL l'annonce tot pour que tout mle monde
> > se colle aux drivers?
>
> Oui, mais c'est destiné d'abord aux mini pc, et ce sera sans doute supporté sur
> un nombre d'appareils restreints au début.

Je pensais a l'aute coté: appareils photos plus d'imprimantes etcetc. Tout c equi marche deja Linux marchera la dessus
>


plouf

10/07/2009 à 00h24

Je ne vois pas l'intérêt commercial pour Google de sortir un OS. Il touche à chaque recherche sur un PC, un Mac et un Linux. Qu'est-ce que cela va lui apporter ?


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hallboy

10/07/2009 à 02h15

Gmail--Google's Web mail service was one of the first Web mail services to provide contextual advertising, meaning it actually goes through your e-mail messages to give you advertisements that match up with a conversation you're having. Did you mention skiing in that last e-mail? Don't be surprised if you start seeing ads for local lift tickets or a new pair of ski boots.

Gmail also tracks what features users are using, including which settings are turned on and off, the themes they've chosen, and which ads they're clicking on. On the flip side, it does not share personal information with third parties; the only thing it gives to advertisers are the metrics on how many times their ads have been clicked.

Google Desktop--Google Desktop is sure to be a part of the Chrome OS. This software indexes all the content on your computer and makes it able to be searched and sorted, sometimes including Web search results from Google. It also indexes Web history, chats, e-mails, and information about your computer like what operating system you're using and the hardware configuration.

As far as usage goes, it can track which sites you're visiting in order to serve up personalized news. The software also has an opt-in "improvement" service that tracks crash reports, how many searches users are doing, and how long the software takes to pull them up.

Considering Google desktop is currently add-on software for Windows, Mac, and Linux (the latter of which the Chrome OS is being built off of), it will likely be more deeply integrated, and possibly something you cannot disable.

Google Checkout--Checkout is Google's online payment service. It lets customers pay for items using credit cards or bank accounts that are tied to their Google credentials. As far as collecting information goes, Google holds all of a customer's financial information on its servers including name, address, and account numbers. It also tracks how quickly they type in that information when making purchases, which account they used to pay for the good, and what that good was, giving the company a broad overview of a particular customer's purchasing habits.

For years Google has struggled to gain marketshare on incumbent PayPal, which has offered a similar Web payment system since the late 1990s. One area where PayPal has not ventured though is to the desktop. Google could easily ingrain Checkout into the OS, allowing users to make payments inside Chrome OS software, or to purchase applications in a similar fashion to how Apple has done it on the iPhone with its own app store.

Google Maps/Location--Google Maps and its related location-based services are one of the highest areas of interest for privacy advocates. Google Maps' Street View service provides 3D, street-level imagery of streets around the world, which is taken by camera-equipped vans that take photos of people and buildings. When Google rolled out its Street View service, faces were not blurred, however Google caved to privacy advocates and began doing so in early 2008.

The service can also locate where users are by obtaining information about what Wi-Fi routers or cell towers they're using to connect to the Web. This may be a standard part of the Chrome OS SDK, allowing applications that run on it to determine a user's location for various geographically-specific features. Many mobile applications are already doing this, including Evernote, which tags where each user note was created.

What to expect

Layers of data sharing. It's safe to assume that there will be many built-in ways to "share" some or all of your personal information with Google. Where the company's approach may differ from its other Web products is that it can get a far broader sense of what you're doing off its own properties, and even when offline.

Google typically has an all-or-nothing approach when it comes to what types of personal data it can harvest. When it comes to operating systems, however, a lot more of that information is localized. Google may offer a way to select certain parts of your application library, or hard disk that cannot be indexed or tracked in a similar fashion to what it does with its desktop search program.

Lots of toggles. To manage all these security and privacy options in one place it's likely there will be an extensive settings panel that lets users track what they are and are not sharing. Google may go so far as to make this more transparent with some sort of task bar that lets you change it on the fly, just like it's done with its privacy mode in the Chrome browser. Just imagine being able to open and use certain applications without the OS keeping track of you ever using them, the same way it treats visiting certain sites.

A deep usage tracking and reporting system. One of the most exciting (or potentially creepy) parts of this will be Google's approach to tracking how users are interacting with its OS. The company spends a considerable amount of time and resources on tracking user experience on its sites both with extended betas, and internal research studies. Having that same kind of tracking system baked into the OS can give Google a very simple way to see what's working and what's not.

As such, Google is likely to take a more extensive approach than Microsoft, which has a more limited system for tracking user activity on Windows. Users can opt in to a "customer experience improvement program" for Office, while Windows users have the option of sending information to Microsoft when applications or the entire operating system crashes. Google could go as far as keeping track of how long you keep your machine running at a time, or what times of day you use certain applications in order to create battery-saving hardware profiles.


plouf

10/07/2009 à 15h26

J'ai déjà du mal à lire 3 lignes en anglais. Alors toute une page, oh tu veux que je me fasse une entorse au cerveau ?

En résumé, ça dit quoi ?


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Le Choixpeau magique

10/07/2009 à 15h31

En résumé ça dit que google c'est le mal, ils gagnent leur vie en monnayant les profils qu'ils font sur nous à partir de nos données persos.


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hallboy

10/07/2009 à 15h52

En résumé: comment faire de l'argent avec du gratuit;)

voila pourquoi Google prevoit de supporter 2 OS tres similaires l'un de l'autre.
Tu regarde TF1 , c'est gratuit. tu te fais soigner et tu es CMU: c'est gratuit;)


mais sans Google pas de Firefox, pas de Gmail avec galerie photo et picasa, pas de Google map, pas de summer of code, qq developpeurs de moins sur le noyau Linux etcetc